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PostWe need to talk.

Alright, at first I didn't know what to tell you people. We're all lazy, inactive, unproductive. As it is right now and if we keep going this direction. It's going to be a fail, this site is going to die. Do you guys really want that? We ALL need to step up our game. Not individually, but as one. How are we going to fix this? If you guys want shit done, you're going to have to contribute to it yourselves.
I'm tired of getting PM's : When's the vault coming up? When are you doing this? Can you do this? Can you do that? Change my name color? Make me this? Honestly, do not PM us about it especially if you haven't done anything to help us. Not to long ago YB offered to help and needed help, who volunteered? NO one. I could have sworn back when the Vault was mentioned, it was used as an excuse for inactivity. Now that there's a way to get it back no one want's to help. It's not how it works. So again, things around here have to change. I understand we all have our RL things to deal with, but come on. I'm out 7/10 of the time and post comments and criticism for you guys through a phone. Blues and Afro also post through a phone half the time.
Now, I know the site has been dead for the past few weeks. Especially for you lurkers who I see everyday come on. It pretty much sums up, this is a boring place and it isn't what it used to be. I cannot guarantee for the site to be what it used to be, but if we really try we can be better than what we were. A RACE OF SUPER SAYIA- No seriously, we need to make this place more interesting as a community.
I do thank the lot of you that stay with us and try your best to do what you can and you honestly have my best regards and love, but here are some suggestions I got from MCX. Our old and great friend.

-Sprite Comics. - Sprite comics were the main reason characters were sheeted. The comic now and days suck, unfinished or don't go beyond issue 3. We need more, I know there's a lot of you with interesting stories in your mind. From this day forward, I will promote Sprite comics. Shit even you new people with no logic can give it a shot, if you try hard enough you'll make a successful comic. Success is achieved after you experience failure.

-Original Sprites - This goes more towards us advanced spriters. Now and days new guys try so hard to keep up with us and jump straight for 3-4 toning. Thus, they never getting better and more shittier sprites spawn. Start going back in time bros,
hell even simply edit the original sprites. The new guys need a chance to improve. That specific guy Eryck, his sprite sheet really inspired me because it had something newer sprites don't. I don't know what it is about the original, but I honestly prefer it over the new ones. Just the feel of it, brings satisfaction. In the long run the newer people wouldn't kill themselves for comments. It's irritating when you're a new guy and you post your work only to get like 1 comment. I don't get why you would waste your time looking into the topic if you weren't going to give the guy advice.

-Sheets - We need sheets. I'm the type of guy who doesn't like to post what I do, in fact I secretly finished up a Perfect Cell sheet so I am also to blame, but we need more sheets. Sheets motivate people to sprite more and to get better, they motivate others to start a comic with them or animate. I mean sure you're going to deal with 1 or 2 morons who come to take the sheet and run away like faggots but the majority of the community would respect your work and produce something nice to make you as a spriter feel happy with your work.


Blues Light wrote:
here's stuff going on, but none of it involves you and you don't really recognize people anymore. We used to have a sense of community, stronger than I've ever seen on any site before. I mean I was on MSN all day every day, talking to like seven people at once, spriting and playing an RPG or 2 and it was all a communal project. Now it's like the soul is gone out of that. I know a good part of it is that I'm just older, but I only joined late into Aceboard, I wasn't an original original vet. Alot of those people are still around. Granted, people aren't going to sprite forever, and that's ok, but why are all our new members just fucking retarded? Is it because I'm judging them against NS Kage, Alex, MCX, Sneshy, Ricky, Sam, and all the rest of them? I really don't know. You all know I've tried everything I can think of for Vortex. Yes, I can be a fucking asshole to people, I'll be the first to admit that, but I think I've done a fairly good job, but I can't help but feel that Vortex died under my watch, and I can't put my finger on why.

MasterChefX wrote:
The reason I left was mostly boredom
The forum has great spriters, both experienced and inexperienced, but no one commits to anything.
Before I left, I would see hundreds of both shitty and awesome oneshot sprites
They never got a full sprite sheet.
Holding contests and offering rewards is superficial to begin with.
The rewards were hardly anything worth the effort for.
And it only bolsters activity for about a day
Mostly of people oogling the winner's sprite. (cough afro xD )
It does little to actually promote activity in spriting
Honestly, I think it's sprite comics where you need to be focusing.
There needs to be a lot more people who are commited to making comics like The Red Power Legacy, Double Devotion, The Great Warriors, Heroes Live On, etc.
People want their characters seen and recognized.
That's my opinion anyways. I sure as hell would love to see my characters even cameo something like RPL
Or be featured in an animation.
It's one of the largest reasons I sprited for so long, and why I constantly updated my sheets.
MasterChefX 2125 says
It becomes a beauty pagaent
Competition is good, but is redundant when nothing is produced from it.
I've literally seen over 10 revamps of Ran'dum
The focus needs to shift from who can out-do the other and add as much gloss to their character, and produce something that can be used.
For that to happen, I think sprite comics are a definite outlet for that.

Afrolicious wrote:
For the love of Bejesus, it's like saying the something needs work but you can't put your finger on it. The glade hope of improvement but the lack of direction. It's like your girlfriend giving you a lap dance when you were promised sex, getting $10 when you actually won $20. It sort of sets us up for failure. >.>

Blues_Light wrote:
Is it sad that I've enjoyed Vortex more tonight talking about all this crap than I have in months? We need to get back to making stuff for each other than whatever is going on now. I remember people asking me "Is that Kale sheet done? I need it for _______!"

Does that happen anymore? I don't see it really. No one makes anything.





If you want to put your input and suggestions on how to improve and make us a much better community, go for it.

We need to wake up, Don't rely on us Admins to go baby you and throw some Viagra your way to wake up. If we don't act now it's bye bye Vortex.


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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Thu May 03, 2012 10:26 am by Cody
Mistah_Jayden wrote:
I'm actually gonna cancel the monthly sprite challenge until summer when everyone is free of school.
And then the challenges are going to be harder.

Does this mean there will be no Voting for this months Sprites D:

Bawh
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Thu May 03, 2012 10:37 am by Sakagami
@MJ
Why would you anyway? There's only one month left.
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Thu May 03, 2012 11:38 am by Afrolicious
Yes there will be voting for this month AND even though there's just one month left, planning needs to be done so...yeah.
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Fri May 04, 2012 7:30 am by blackgoodbye
Summer? lol mate, winter is comming.. this makes me very sad, im already sitting here for hours cold and waiting for some fun competition to get me all excited where the sun dont shine (..in my computer room)

i dont see why theres planning to be done over the monthly sprite contest? theres large participation and the only problem i see was seto not being here at the end of it, but that seems to have been sorted?

EDIT: also, i was just going through older posts and came across the vortex tournament article, is tehre any plans on going forward with this at all in the future? im sure im not the only one wondering.
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Fri May 04, 2012 5:13 pm by Afrolicious
blackgoodbye wrote:
EDIT: also, i was just going through older posts and came across the vortex tournament article, is tehre any plans on going forward with this at all in the future? im sure im not the only one wondering.
This is what I was referring to about 'the planning'. We still don't know exactly what's going to happen hence why the next Monthly Sprite Fight won't happen. Very Happy
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Fri May 04, 2012 5:24 pm by Luka
Afrolicious wrote:
blackgoodbye wrote:
EDIT: also, i was just going through older posts and came across the vortex tournament article, is tehre any plans on going forward with this at all in the future? im sure im not the only one wondering.
This is what I was referring to about 'the planning'. We still don't know exactly what's going to happen hence why the next Monthly Sprite Fight won't happen. Very Happy

Yes but, as far as I know, the only REAL participation we need from a judge is someone to copy/paste the link of a member's entry. I don't see what's so hard about that, but every month it seems to be lagged up the butt. Participation from us isn't really the problem. Everyone seems to get their entries in on time, but it takes us half a month to be able to see them. I'm not complaining to MJ, mind you, I understand he's busy and is only on this so often, but why not allow someone to judge who is more active? I don't understand why the monthly sprite-offs are being put on hiatus..
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Fri May 04, 2012 5:50 pm by Sakagami
They also think up topics.


But I agree on else.
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Fri May 04, 2012 10:55 pm by Mistah_Jayden
There weren't even that many entries for the sprite offs....

Sprites off are to be put on hold until we get our stuff together. They honestly promote nothing aside from you guys constantly losing to Afro. >.>
Sadly all 3 of us admins now have the monthly sprite collector account but we're all grown ass men. T.T
I'll figure something out eventually.
Maybe give it to Ramone. He's more productive than my dusty ass.
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Fri May 04, 2012 10:59 pm by Luka
Mistah_Jayden wrote:
There weren't even that many entries for the sprite offs....

They honestly promote nothing aside from you guys constantly losing to Afro. >.>

How motivating Oh boy
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Fri May 04, 2012 11:13 pm by Afrolicious
Luka wrote:
Mistah_Jayden wrote:
There weren't even that many entries for the sprite offs....

They honestly promote nothing aside from you guys constantly losing to Afro. >.>

How motivating Oh boy
Oh snap B-but I love you guys.
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Fri May 04, 2012 11:17 pm by Axxon456
Afrolicious wrote:
Luka wrote:
Mistah_Jayden wrote:
There weren't even that many entries for the sprite offs....

They honestly promote nothing aside from you guys constantly losing to Afro. >.>

How motivating Oh boy
Oh snap B-but I love you guys.

Hey Hey hey, I had a Close Second on that March contest!

WTH Afro knows he can't win forever.
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Fri May 04, 2012 11:39 pm by Afrolicious
Axxon456 wrote:
Afrolicious wrote:
Luka wrote:
Mistah_Jayden wrote:
There weren't even that many entries for the sprite offs....

They honestly promote nothing aside from you guys constantly losing to Afro. >.>

How motivating Oh boy
Oh snap B-but I love you guys.

Hey Hey hey, I had a Close Second on that March contest!

WTH Afro knows he can't win forever.
lol Well, I could step down from contest and take care of them instead. Fuck yeah
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Fri May 04, 2012 11:58 pm by Axxon456
Afrolicious wrote:
Axxon456 wrote:
Afrolicious wrote:
Luka wrote:
Mistah_Jayden wrote:
There weren't even that many entries for the sprite offs....

They honestly promote nothing aside from you guys constantly losing to Afro. >.>

How motivating Oh boy
Oh snap B-but I love you guys.

Hey Hey hey, I had a Close Second on that March contest!

WTH Afro knows he can't win forever.
lol Well, I could step down from contest and take care of them instead. Fuck yeah
Nu uh! I join contest because your in them! Sad
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Sat May 05, 2012 2:31 am by blackgoodbye
I agree afro.. your epicness is sort of a motivation to do ones best.. one day we will beat you.

There are many active people who could help, im sure there are some bums around who have all the time
in the world.

Thinking up topics arent that hard.. to be honest we should have a topic where people could post ideas..
or atleast have someone they could mail with ideas.

I think the planning for the tournament is no reason to stop this months contest.. no offense guys, luka is
right really.. all we need from a judge is to post the sprites entered then pop up a poll, we do all the hard
work Very Happy (the spriting)

If you guys need help planning the tournament or something im sure the community would have some ideas
on how to make it work, we have creative people.. and some of us have experience with this sort of mojo.

Just saying, we are here to help. Crosseyehappy
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Sun May 06, 2012 11:04 am by Z-Fighter
Well, I am mostly suffering from an inspiration block, but I'm trying to get the drive back as much as I can.

I think we should be more open to the variety of spriting styles and see how people work them out.

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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Sun May 06, 2012 11:51 am by Onis
Z-Fighter wrote:
Well, I am mostly suffering from an inspiration block, but I'm trying to get the drive back as much as I can.

I think we should be more open to the variety of spriting styles and see how people work them out.

Well we've never really been against other styles. If anyone sprites another style, they're free to post that stuff too. Just look at Shinbs

And if anyone wants to do a contest in another style, they can start it.
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Sun May 06, 2012 11:57 am by Z-Fighter
Ah, my bad. I found that there are too many varieties of the standard style anyway, complete with shading and everything. I think old-school should be a basic start for those who actually begin with spriting and, if they want to, gradually move to a different style of their choosing. But that's just an idea.
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Mon May 14, 2012 4:26 am by blackgoodbye
Z-Fighter wrote:
Ah, my bad. I found that there are too many varieties of the standard style anyway, complete with shading and everything. I think old-school should be a basic start for those who actually begin with spriting and, if they want to, gradually move to a different style of their choosing. But that's just an idea.

i think most people start up and see all the stuff on our forums and 'assume' the new styles are the basic ones, rather than going and looking at the original sprites from the game and the originality that came with the ace and exo boards, which i highly reccomend viewing (not sure if you still can? but i remember looking at some archivish versions of the old forums?)

On another note.. hows the sorting out of the possible tournament going? im sitting here in anticipation and im sure im not the only one.
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Mon May 14, 2012 8:43 am by Sakagami
Well, in my case, I saw both when I first came and figured that the newer one looks better, so that's why I chose it. I was aware of the old one.
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Fri May 18, 2012 11:42 pm by Marche_Stradust
Easy lets make a video game and or sprite comic to show em this ment something I got billions of ideas I just need the motivation to do it. seriously I have tones of notes on how to make things and the talent to do it I just need the motivation and the helping hand.

For example a futuristic rpg with squad capabiities and cusomization that will hit the need of humans to express and progress? If we do this though I must make it clear that we must advertise how real life is still more inportant.
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:39 am by MoeEpic-Animations
Id hate to see this place die... i just joined... My goal is a update a day since ive got all the summer.
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Re: We need to talk.
Post on Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:24 pm by Luka
MoeEpic-Animations wrote:
Id hate to see this place die... i just joined... My goal is a update a day since ive got all the summer.

Pssst, look at the topic before you post. I don't think it applies here since it's in the announcements area and might be stickied? But if the post above yours is over a month old, it's gravedigging Hee

But don't worry, this place is starting to see more action than it has all year.
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